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For a brief moment in time it appeared Andy Reid was going to be the next head coach of the Arizona Cardinals.

Then Reid interviewed with the Kansas City Chiefs, and that idea flew out the window.

Word leaked early Thursday that Reid to the Chiefs was 'imminent', and that the Cardinals were in turn setting their sights on other options.

Given that it appears Arizona may have been used as leverage, people are wondering if the Cardinals "got played" by the Reid camp.

"I think they just got beat, more than anything else," ESPN NFL insider John Clayton told Arizona Sports 620's Doug and Wolf Thursday, noting a deal is not officially done yet. "I think you can see where structure wasn't going to work."

Clayton said Reid will have more freedom in Kansas City than he would have in Arizona, as Cardinals president Michael Bidwill is also searching for a new general manager as well as a coach. It's been reported that Reid would like to bring his own general manager along, and that may not have jived with what Arizona wanted to do.

But still, Reid had every intention of chatting with the Cardinals.

"Now, he planned to come out (to Arizona)," Clayton added. "Went nine hours [Wednesday], it went well.

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"Then they get up this morning and they start hashing things out and according to a source, when Andy started going over what they talked about he said 'that sounds good to me.'"

Clayton said Reid and the Chiefs are now in the stage of working out contract numbers, figuring the coach will make around $7.5 to $8 million along with having plenty of control over personnel, which is a number the Cardinals may not have wanted any part of.

"That's why he called and cancelled the flights, and he still left it open for if things fall apart that he can go there, but he's going to end up in Kansas City."

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    mesa mad man wrote...
    Not Negative
    I dont think it is a negative thing or a bad reflection on the Cardinals ownership AT ALL that they 'got beat'. There were things the Chiefs were willing to give up (control namely) that the Cardinals were not willing to. The fact that we didnt cave to that speaks loudly as to the direction of the team. They want to get a structure in place and the right people in those spots. They did not want to make the same mistake they did with Whiz
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    Rainex80 wrote...
    beat?
    wouldnt necessarily say they got beat...they werent even in the game. didnt even get an interview. The only people who thought he was a definite in arizona before the season even ended are the same idiots who report that oh you know it just wouldnt work in arizona.
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    azgbayfan wrote...
    Why rush?
    In considering Andy Reid it is difficult to determine if your getting a guy who got the Eagles to a Super Bowl and 5 NFC Championship games or guy who had an absolute disaster on his hands the last 2 years. Don't think you want to rush through that process
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    senseikompani wrote...
    Two Words Buddy Ryan
    I am glad Cardinals learned from their past mistakes. I don't want them to give too much power to any coach. Remember the Winner( Buddy) hired all his friends and family and gave them high salaries.
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    hm wrote...
    didn't get beat
    I really think the Cardinals will be the winner if Reid signs with Kansas.
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    theuglytruth wrote...
    To get a deal done...
    ..you have to be a closer. Bidwill's inexperience led to this, you can try to paint it positive all you want, but it is what it is...inexperience. What's done is done, time to move forward. @mesaman: I doubt Bidwill had a chance to discuss anything regarding control. Once KC was in, they closed the deal. It's not an open negotiation. They got in, closed the door and found a way to keep him off the plane.
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    Ira S. wrote...
    Never was gonna be Reid.
    It was never going to be Reid. It's gonna be Horton. Outside chance of Todd Haley(god no). Horton has already said he wants to stay here and the Bidwells, correctly (for once) don't want to risk loosing Horton's amazing defense. Maybe Haley for OC? Not sure how he would fare without Kurt Warner. And, without Reid, maybe less of a chance of that dog killer piece of garbage vick ending up here. I don't care if he takes them to the Super Bowl, I will be rooting for anyone else to win.
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    theuglytruth wrote...
    Denial
    that's what they call that Ira...denial. Bidwill had every intention of trying to secure Reid.
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    mesa mad man wrote...
    @theuglytruth
    I am sure they had some sort of conversation to even gauge initial interest - whether it be with the agent or Reid himself. If Reid honestly thought the Cardinals would offer the same thing as the Chiefs, I am sure he would have at least interviewed.
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    Whatashame wrote...
    Beat and beat down...
    They certainly got beat. Michael wants to have his say in things he does not know enough about. The "family" does not want to pay top price for a coach and cede control. KC will make it back to respectability long before this sorry franchise ever makes it into the 3 hole in the NFC West. If it is Horton or Haley it will be three and done and if it is Keim, as expected, he won't need sunscreen as the shade from Michael's thumb will prevent him from getting a burn.
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